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Controversy over 'No God' bus ads in Norwich

AtheistBus2WebBy Keith Morris



Controversial adverts proclaiming “There's probably no God” have started running on buses in Norwich, backed by the British Humanist Society, and have met with a mixed reaction from the city’s Christian community.

 

 

The £140,000 campaign has placed posters on 800 buses across the UK, including Norwich, after atheist and comedy writer Ariane Sherine took objection to adverts on some London buses carrying Christian messages. The full advert reads: “There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.”

 

A spokeswoman for First confirmed buses in Norwich were among those carrying the slogan. She said: “The buses are used as an advertising tool. First does not endorse or support any of the adverts on buses, the same as we do not with any other adverts. The atheist adverts have been passed by the Advertising Standards Authority.”
 
Perhaps well placed to comment on the issue is chairman of Transforming Norwich and a former advertising copywriter for Saatchi and Saatchi, Rev Nicholas Vesey (pictured below).
 
He said: “If Christians are able to advertise on the buses I think all faiths and none should be able to, it goes with freedom of speech. It also gives us an opportunity to communicate what we believe.
 
“From an advertising perspective, when you are not the brand leader you often use knocking copy to attack them and also associate yourself with them. I would say in these adverts we are considered the brand leader.
 
“I would rather see them use a more positive approach, advertising their own ideas than knocking ours. What is the positive Humanist approach?
 
“At St Luke’s, the slogan outside the front of our church is ‘Make the most of your life’. Maybe the Humanists could use that or ‘Be human, have a heart’ or, ‘Be human - after all we have all got to live together’.
 
Rev Jack Burton from St Clement Church in Colegate, who used to be a bus driver himself, said that while he did not agree with the contents of the adverts, he did not feel it necessary for drivers to go as far as to refuse to get behind the wheel.

NickVeseyHe added: “I think it is a very sad gesture with which to greet the New Year, and it is wasting a lot of money just to rob people of their hope.”

But Rev Gill Bridges from Sprowston, said she felt some good could come out of the campaign: “When I first saw the adverts on buses around the city, I admit I was shocked, it certainly made me stop and think.

“But I think this could be a positive thing if it gets people to think about what they really believe.”

The Bishop of Norwich, the Right Rev Graham James, said: “Whatever God this sign is talking about it is certainly not the one Christians believe in. The God revealed in Christ is the one who relieves our worries and anxieties, rather than increasing them. He wishes us to enjoy the life he has given us, to have fun and live life to its fullness.”

Vince Chainey, secretary of the Norfolk Humanist Group, said he backed the campaign, adding: “It is important that people feel they are free to express their views on any topic. Religion tends to think it should have the moral high ground and should not be criticised.”
 
Article extracts courtesy of www.eveningnews24.co.uk

 

Keith Morris, 22/01/2009

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Dave Phillips (Guest)22/01/2009 14:53
I see that the advert says that there is "probably" no God. To me, this suggests that Ariene Sherene is saying that there is a distinct possibility that God DOES exist.
Libby Cossins (Guest)22/01/2009 14:55
Hurrah, Gods timeing is right...Thankyou Jane Williams!The Alpha Courses are well on view on th front of churches, its a good opening for discussion on Salvation and Eternal Life ,plus the wonderfull oppertunity to live in The Power of The Holy Spirit, in between.Glory To God!
Tim (Guest)22/01/2009 15:08
How sad that the only response of Mr/Ms Anonymous is to criticise a Bishop who is fully aware of what Jesus taught and whose ministry of encouragement is highly valued by all who have come into contact with him. Mr Dawkins and Co would be overjoyed that their silly adverts had such an effect.
Paul (Guest)22/01/2009 18:33
What are you all talking about the God of the Humanist is themselves.
gary moore (Guest)22/01/2009 18:35
this should open a debate with those on the streets giving many the chance to share the faith. Lets not get scared because of a two lined advert ..rather lets use it to talk to those who have no idea about God at all.
i would say that the driver of the bus is standing up for what he beleives in and that is more of a witness than many ever do. good man!
Terence Gallant (Guest)23/01/2009 18:10
I notice that there are alot of comments, which in itself is most interesting. I am rather surprised that these adverts are on First buses. In all of this we must remember that God does not need to be defended by Christians or for that matter by anybody else. I do not think these adverts will do any thing positive for the cause of the humanists. There is so much selfishness around in these days I would have thought the best idea would be to forget about ourselves and to turn to worship the one true God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Perhaps the unnamed guest can see now the meaning of Jesus in saying that we should lose our life. We have much more to gain in salvation from sin and ourselves and in a new relationship with God our Father.
xxx (Guest)23/01/2009 21:31
Thank you Brother Terence for your attempt to clear up the meaning of hating your life, (you use lose) and gaining it, but with all due respect you have not spoken a clear word.
My question is to the leader of the church of England in this county. What do you mean that the Lord wants us to have fun. In context of the Lord speaking concerning hating our life. Again I will quote it for you, all I want is a clear word on the matter.
John 12:25 (Darby Translation)

25He that loves his life shall lose it, and he that hates his life in this world shall keep it to life eternal.
Colin (Guest)24/01/2009 19:26
Goodness me with everything else that is going on around us and in this world why do people get so hot under the collar about these kind of adverts. Do you think God is worried? I doubt it. Don't people see that this is yet just another diversion by the enemy to keep christians minds off the important things, making sure the gospel is taken out into all the world. God gives free will, we all have choices. If that means some having heard the gospel still decide not to turn to God then that is up to them we are not responsible for an individuals salvation only for trying to ensure people hear His word. Give it a few weeks/months and something else will be in vogue and some new slogan will be 'on the buses'...sounds like the old comedy programme! lol
James Knight (Guest)27/01/2009 12:25
Although slightly different, I remember as a child reading a poster with the Cartesian "I think, therefore I am", and being very challenged to ponder it at length. Let's hope that the 'There's probably no God...' poster has a similar effect on people.

One thing we know is that God will use every situation to do glorious things here on earth. As the book of Isaiah says, "His word does not come back empty, and what He sets out to do He will accomplish (Isaiah 55:10-11)".

We all have our bit to do as well, of course.

Regards

James
Franca (Guest)11/03/2009 14:58
If there is no God then why do we have need the law???
The law based on the Ten Commandments! So, let's get ride of the laws and then let us see how life will be for all humans.
If we think then we are and if we are then we have been created!!

Franca
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