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Norwich vicar sees red and white over poppies

PhilipYoung300Vicar of St. Thomas, Heigham, Norwich, the Rev Philip Young, will be wearing both a red and a white poppy on Remembrance Day on November 11 and Remembrance Sunday, November 14. He explains why.
I shall be wearing the red poppy to support the work of the British Legion as it seeks to care for ex-service men and women. I shall join in the remembrance of all those who have given their lives in war. Those brave men and women who have chosen to join the armed forces of the world and who have died believing that what they are doing is for the greater peace. I shall also be remembering those innocent civilians who have lost their lives because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
 
In addition I will be wearing a white poppy to support the work of the Peace Pledge Union, which works to bring about the complete cessation of war and to bring about peace and reconciliation in the world community.
 
As a Christian, and a pacifist, I would love war to cease right away. It is a tragedy that we continue to think that war will bring about peace. I am of the belief that violence breeds violence and that the only way to bring about a lasting peace is to reject all war and all preparation for war. When we look at Iraq and Afghanistan then we can begin to understand that we may well have stirred up a hornet’s nest and that consequently the world has become a more dangerous and violent place. At some point the vicious circle of violence needs to be broken by choosing peace as the solution.
 
Human beings are creatures given choice and the sooner we choose peaceful ways the better. I want to persuade the world to give up all war by 11/11/2018. This is exactly 100 years after the Armistice, which ended the First World War. This was the war to end all wars and what better way to honour all those who have died in war than to bring about the end of all war.
 
RedWhitePoppiesWill you join a campaign to end all war by 11/11/2018? Eight years away may seem a very short time scale to end all war, when human beings have been fighting one another for thousands of years. Perhaps will still have war in eight years time, but there does not seem to be a good reason why we shouldn’t at least discuss it and try to join together to bring an end to all war as soon as we possibly can. If you are fed up with war and violence, then why not join those campaigning to end all war?
 
I am calling this campaign 11/11 and offering it as a possible solution to 9/11. You can’t make peace with a terrorist by using violence as it only creates more hatred and misunderstanding. The only way to get even with a terrorist is by understanding what makes them a terrorist and by seeking to make them your friends. We have done this with the IRA and in the end we have to sit down and talk to Al-Qaeda. Some believe this process is already going on. I believe this is a hopeful sign.
 
If you are interested in joining Campaign 11/11 to end all war by 11/11/2018 then please e-mail me at philipyoung@btinternet.com or go to the St. Thomas’ Heigham website at www.stthomasheigham.org
 
In the coming months I am hoping to create a new website dedicated to Campaign 11/11. Let me know if you wish to be informed of its launch date.
 

Poppies picture from www.ppu.org.uk


 

In response to this article, Pastor Tom Chapman has written an article on pacifism. Click here to read it.

 

Click here to read James Knight's column on pacifism

Feedback:
Tim (Guest)11/11/2010 04:23
The white poppy is not a pledge for peace. It is an offensive protest against all those brave men and woman who lost their lives in the pursuit of peace. For a vicar in the Church of England to wear it in memory of those who have died is quite simply an outrage, as is hijacking a day of national mourning. I don't disagree with the intentions and hopes of Rev. Mr Young, but the way he is going about it is simply wrong and offensive.
Unice (Guest)11/11/2010 08:05
I am suprised Mr Young doesnt wear a mixture of the two, ..a pink one, it would go well with the scarf that pride knitted with his blessing last year.
He is clearly out of touch with the revelation concerning war . rather than ending it we should expect an unprecedented war as revealed in the book of revelation.
How do you explain your position of mixture in light of that Mr Young?
Peter (Guest)11/11/2010 11:49
Yes war is offensive and we should do all we can to change mens hearts But Mr Young should live in the real world where brave men and women defend his right to express his views. How does he feel about the Iraqui Christians recently gunned down ?Wearing a white poppy does not help them As a SSAFA caseworker I try to assist exservicepeople in Norwich ,some on the streets .How would Mr Young would cope with a current client of mine who has deep depression Agrophobia due to fighting for his country Give him a white poppy ? and say he is misgided
Keith (Guest)11/11/2010 13:12
How does Mr. Young reconcile his support for the cessation of wars with the scriptures in Matthew 24:6-7? Wars will only cease when our Saviour returns. There is nothing man can do to prevent war. It is part of our sinful nature.
You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places.


Stan (Guest)11/11/2010 13:52
This bable again proves that because someone decided on a career, path attended a class, had some inane prayer said over them, dressed thenselves up in old testament garb and utter vain blessings a priest of God does not make.
The sooner the body of Christ wakes up to the fact that according to the New testament there is no hierarchy of believers manifested as the clergy /pastoral laity system the sooner all believers will function as priests and the Lord will return and wars will be over, at least for one thousand years and the less time and credence will be given to the dress wearing pontificating bearded wonders who haunt the churches.
Julie Mansfield (Guest)11/11/2010 15:10
Dear Rev Young.

I loved your article and stand with you in your sentiments. I will email you about joining in your 11/11 campaign. My understanding is that the Bible is all about human beings loving their neighbour as themselves'.

much love, Julie
Margaret Whitaker (Guest)11/11/2010 18:57
Thanks Julie for ending the tirade of invective and abuse which Philip has received. I agree entirely with your sentiments and could not have put it better. Jesus was clear about God's nature being LOVE and our responsibility as Christians is to affirm the expression of love. However, true peace is not possible without justice and the two sit together. Philip is continuing to honour the dead, injured, and damaged by war whilst hoping,praying and working towards peace. We do not honour the war dead and wounded by ceasing to work for peace and the coming of the Kingdom through the love God showed us by sending His beloved Son.
Keith Morris16/11/2010 20:21
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Lynda Edwards27/11/2010 08:29
I agree it is futile to indulge in war. What a waste of lives (many people are killed or maimed) - what on earth is all that about? No war, in my opinion, has achieved anything. Many countries, including ours, have financial difficulties yet insist on wasting money on war.

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